{"id":933,"date":"2013-02-20T16:49:07","date_gmt":"2013-02-21T00:49:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thebeagle.itgroove.net\/?p=933"},"modified":"2023-02-24T21:48:49","modified_gmt":"2023-02-24T21:48:49","slug":"stuff-to-think-about-when-you-consider-on-premise-vs-office365","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/regroove.ca\/archive\/2013\/02\/20\/stuff-to-think-about-when-you-consider-on-premise-vs-office365\/","title":{"rendered":"Stuff to think about when you consider \u201cOn Premise\u201d vs Office365"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We (itgroove) have been working with a lot of clients that are moving parts of their infrastructure to Office365.&nbsp; For some clients it really is a \u201cno-brainer\u201d and there is no discussion at all about 365 vs on premise servers.&nbsp; For other clients it is a much more complex discussion.&nbsp; So I thought it might be useful to have a broader discussion via this blog about the things you need to consider about whether or not you move all or part of your infrastructure to Office365.<\/p>\n<p>To begin, you need to understand what Office365 actually brings to the table.&nbsp; 365 is NOT just email or SharePoint or Lync.&nbsp; It is all of those parts integrated together and ready to roll out of the box.&nbsp; It is really much more than most small businesses could ever hope to install on premise (more on this in a moment) or even most medium-sized businesses could do.&nbsp; Most of the 365 plans actually slot users in at a service level, specially on the SharePoint side, that slides in above what you would get by having \u201cStandard\u201d versions of Exchange and SharePoint installed on premise.&nbsp;&nbsp; Again, from a SharePoint point of view, you get a whole whack more functionality than you would get with SharePoint Foundation installed on premise.&nbsp; In other words, you get features and functionality that if installed locally on premise would cost quite a bit.&nbsp; And then there is the whole other world of possibilities afforded by Lync which most small businesses would never consider installing locally.<\/p>\n<p>Most small businesses approach 365 coming from a Small Business Server environment and they try to \u201cmap\u201d the costs as filtered through the SBS \u201clens\u201d so lets do some mapping based on that paradigm.<\/p>\n<p>In the good old days (2011 and earlier), small businesses could buy SBS 2011 Premium which would give them a bundle of two Server 2008 R2 licenses, Exchange 2010 Standard, SQLserver 2008 R2, SharePoint Foundation 2010 and appropriate CAL\u2019s for the whole nine yards.&nbsp; For a 30 user shop the costs for the software would be in the range of about $4800 ~ 5200 Canadian (give or take); not cheap but also a lot less than the costs for all of the standalone products and their attendant CAL\u2019s.&nbsp; You could use the SQLserver installation for line of business apps and, of course, SharePoint Foundation 2010 could utilize it for all SharePoint storage.&nbsp; But you would have to spend a bunch more money if you wanted \u201cfull\u201d SharePoint Server.&nbsp; There was no option that would provide you with Office licenses, those were also an additional cost.<\/p>\n<p>Now that SBS is but a fond and distant memory you would need the following to recreate the same on premise services utilizing the latest Volume licensing (assuming one physical server running Hyper-V and two VM\u2019s, all pricing in Loonies <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wlEmoticon wlEmoticon-star\" style=\"border-top-style: none;border-left-style: none;border-bottom-style: none;border-right-style: none\" alt=\"Star\" src=\"https:\/\/thebeagle.itgroove.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/thebeagle\/2013\/02\/wlEmoticon-star.png\">):<\/p>\n<table cellspacing=\"5\" cellpadding=\"2\" width=\"692\" border=\"5\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"371\"><font color=\"#000000\">Product<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"175\"><font color=\"#000000\">COST<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"116\"><font color=\"#000000\">TOTAL<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"371\"><font color=\"#000000\">Windows Server 2012 Standard<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"175\"><font color=\"#000000\">$1179<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"116\"><font color=\"#000000\">$1179<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"371\"><font color=\"#000000\">30 Server 2012 CAL\u2019s<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"175\"><font color=\"#000000\">$45 per CAL<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"116\"><font color=\"#000000\">$1350<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"371\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">Exchange 2013 Standard<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"175\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">$946<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"116\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">$946<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"371\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">30 Exchange 2013 CAL\u2019s<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"175\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">$140 per CAL<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"116\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">$4200<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"371\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">SQLserver 2012 Standard<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"175\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">$1199<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"116\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">$1199<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"371\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">30 SQLserver 2013 CAL\u2019s<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"175\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">$279 per CAL<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"116\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">$8370<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"371\"><font color=\"#000000\">SharePoint 2013 Foundation <\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"175\"><font color=\"#000000\">FREE<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"116\"><font color=\"#000000\">N\/C<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"371\"><font color=\"#000000\">Office 2013 Professional<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"175\"><font color=\"#000000\">$679\/user<\/font><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"116\"><font color=\"#000000\">$20370<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Now, if my math is correct, this adds up to <strong>$17244<\/strong> without Office 2013, or <strong>$37614<\/strong> with Office 2013 licenses.<\/p>\n<p>So now we look at the license cost per product (does not include hardware and other related costs).&nbsp; Exchange would be <strong>$5146<\/strong> or <strong>$173.33<\/strong> per user.&nbsp; SharePoint (including SQL) would be <strong>$9569<\/strong> or <strong>$318.96<\/strong> per user.&nbsp; Windows (server) cost would be <strong>$2529<\/strong> or <strong>$84.30<\/strong> per user.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The grand total per user is <strong>$576.59<\/strong>.&nbsp; All of this ends up as up front capital out the door or some form of financed monthly cost (lease or financing, your choice).&nbsp; If you factor in the costs of hardware, maintenance, backup, labour cost to support all of this on premise you would probably spend at least as much again, per user, over a three year term.&nbsp; So, let\u2019s say the total cost per user for 3 years to handle all of these services on premise would be <strong>$1153<\/strong>.&nbsp; Add in&nbsp; Office 2013 Professional for the users (you need Office to consume a lot of the services), so factor in another <strong>$679<\/strong> per user which brings our three year cost per user to <strong>$1832<\/strong> or <strong>$54960.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(NOTE:&nbsp; To be fair, you may or may not need SQL for local on premise line-of-business apps.&nbsp; If you do and you need the features of SQLserver Standard vs the \u201cfree\u201d SQLserver Express editions then you need to take the next set of numbers with a grain of salt.&nbsp; On the other hand, if you only want or need SQL to provide the \u201cgrunt\u201d as the backend to SharePoint then the following numbers will be very interesting to you.)<\/p>\n<p>Using the Office365 \u201cE3\u201d plan as a starting point (includes 5 copies of Office 2013 Pro per user), the cost per user per month is <strong>$23.20<\/strong> so the three year cost per user equals <strong>$835.20.<\/strong>&nbsp; Because Office365 is now providing all of the functions of the product licenses in our table in BLUE you can see that we have pulled out a massive up front cost as all of that is no longer required.&nbsp; If we add in the <strong>$84.30<\/strong> Windows server per user cost to our 365 cost we end up with a 3 year per user cost of <strong>$919.50<\/strong>.&nbsp; For the sake of argument, add in another <strong>$100<\/strong> per user over the 3 years to cover maintenance and what not on what would now be a DC\/fileserver and you end up with a cost of <strong>$1019.50<\/strong> per user.&nbsp; This is a savings of <strong>$812.50 <\/strong>per user over three years or <strong>$24375<\/strong> in total.<\/font><\/p>\n<p>OK, lots of numbers and the numbers change depending on your circumstances and what you pay for Volume licensing.&nbsp; But I think you can see where I\u2019m going.&nbsp; In our 30 user scenario we save slightly more than the cost of the Office 2013 licensing over the three year period by utilizing Office365.&nbsp; That translates to getting Office 2013 \u201cfor free\u201d and not having to deal with all of the issues that surround having to support all of the on premise services.&nbsp; Factor in the rolling upgrades\/updates that are included with Office 365, meaning you are ALWAYS up-to-date, and it looks to be a no brainer.<\/p>\n<p>I hope this is helpful, it is certainly eye opening.&nbsp;&nbsp; Yes there are costs for going to the cloud but it looks like there are savings, as well.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wlEmoticon 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