{"id":193,"date":"2013-07-03T17:00:00","date_gmt":"2013-07-03T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/conversations.itgroove.net\/?p=193"},"modified":"2023-02-24T21:48:42","modified_gmt":"2023-02-24T21:48:42","slug":"what-i-learned-about-buying-our-new-cars","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/regroove.ca\/archive\/2013\/07\/03\/what-i-learned-about-buying-our-new-cars\/","title":{"rendered":"What I learned about buying our new cars"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Written by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.brainlitter.com\/author\/Sean%20Wallbridge\/\">Sean Wallbridge<\/a>.<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/i2.wp.com\/www.brainlitter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/image8.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"image\" alt=\"image thumb7 What I learned about buying our new cars\" src=\"http:\/\/i1.wp.com\/www.brainlitter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/image_thumb7.png?resize=233%2C226\" width=\"233\" height=\"226\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We recently bought two new cars.\u00a0 Well, mostly new. Both were Demo\u2019s (cars used typically by staff at the car lot, typically with 3000 to 8000km on it \u2013 more about that below). I won\u2019t comment too much on what we bought (a Mini Cooper Countryman and a Ford Flex \u2013 loving them both by the way) or where we bought them to protect the (mostly) innocent but I thought I\u2019d share what I learned about buying cars, in case it helps others.<\/p>\n<p>All in all, both car purchases were positive experiences.\u00a0 I loved my Range Rover and our Kia Sedona Van served us admirably as well.\u00a0 But we decided we no longer wanted to be \u201cvan people\u201d and the Range Rover, well, it was always thirsty for gas and it was very expensive to maintain. I\u2019ll miss her, but not that much.<\/p>\n<p>My dad was a big part of my learning process and while the decisions to buy were my own (Wendy preferred to defer to me on this), his experience and support was invaluable. Thanks Dad.<\/p>\n<p>So here\u2019s what I learned:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Salespeople are not looking to be your friend or your pal.\u00a0 Sure, they are chummy, very likeable but <em><strong>that is their job<\/strong><\/em> \u2013 <em>to make the experience an emotional one for you<\/em>.\u00a0 Post sales, the guys I have dealt with were still good guys, but it is important to remember they simply want to get as much margin out of you, as you want to save on buying a car<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<ul>\n<li>Demo\u2019s are a good thing.\u00a0 I wanted a \u201cnew\u201d car but to be honest, I\u2019m quite thrilled with the fact that I saved a bunch of money (15% or so) by getting a vehicle that has been \u201cburned in\u201d a little.\u00a0 There are the smallest of scratches and things like that on both vehicles but it would be only 2 weeks before I got them myself \u2013 and now I don\u2019t have to sweat \u201cearning\u201d those scratches and agonizing over them. That little bit of drama is gone.\u00a0 Both vehicles look like new, they just don\u2019t smell like new.\u00a0 And they aren\u2019t lemons \u2026 they have driven well for 6000 and 11000 km\u2019s each, respectively. Happy Bunny.<\/li>\n<li>If you are buying a Demo (and the other advantages include no freight charges, etc.), be sure to check the VIN number to ensure there was no damage. One of my new vehicles had a minor fender bender but because it was under $2000, they didn\u2019t have to disclose it. Now, in this case, I actually believe due to the nature of the one transaction (Bosses wife\u2019s car\/demo, was a quick exchange), that they didn\u2019t mean to not disclose it \u2013 but once I found out, I got a bunch of free oil changes and a little extra attention <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"What I learned about buying our new cars\" alt=\"wlEmoticon winkingsmile3 What I learned about buying our new cars\" src=\"http:\/\/i2.wp.com\/www.brainlitter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/wlEmoticon-winkingsmile3.png\" width=\"19\" height=\"19\" \/><\/li>\n<li>Be prepared to walk away. In fact \u2026 have NO PLANS (browse with no intention on buying) the first time you make contact with the sales guy or gal \u2013 check out cars for an hour or so and then have \u201can appointment somewhere\u201d.\u00a0 They know their best chance at a sale is the first visit and they will try to get you to commit on that first visit.\u00a0 When you leave, they will absolutely be in touch, but plan on taking your time to get back to them.\u00a0 I had the one guy \u201csharpen his pencil\u201d for me some 4 or 5 times. I got a great deal in the end and more than fair on my trade-in, but it took effort and patience<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Be prepared for a long, drawn out afternoon on the day of the big purchase (at this point, I\u2019m assuming you have already negotiated to a price you are prepared to pay).\u00a0 No matter how quick they are (or pretend to be), you are going to be there for a while, being escorted from waiting area, to offices, etc.\u00a0 You know, financing options, extended warranties, undercoating (ha! in Victoria?).\u00a0 In fact, if you want any of those things, research them before being put on the spot to make a decision \u2013 And make sure you know what each item is and you are allowed to say no, to all of them. Budget at least 3 hours for this \u201chandover\u201d. Saying no doesn\u2019t make it go any faster it would appear\u2026<\/li>\n<li>Don\u2019t kiss the car after the test drive.\u00a0 You might be in love with what you just drove, but don\u2019t let on\u2026 Remember, the salesperson is counting on this being an emotional experience for you<\/li>\n<li>Negotiate the price before you offer up <em>how you want to pay<\/em>. I thought, as I\u2019m sure a lot of people do, that by having my financing in order (we borrowed against our mortgage, we like 1 payment to make, each month), I would get a great deal, with less hassle for the sales guy.\u00a0 Nope, <strong><em>they want you to finance with them<\/em><\/strong>.\u00a0 The fact that you are going to just\/only pay the sticker price is not exciting to them. They don\u2019t mind the paperwork, it is more money for them.\u00a0 So negotiate your price, and then and only then, if you plan on paying without financing, give them the bad news<\/li>\n<li>Anyways, I\u2019m sure there are things I\u2019m missing or have forgotten and I\u2019m sure others have more to share, but this was off the top of my head.\u00a0 Vrrrroooommmm\u2026\n<p>~Sean~<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Written by Sean Wallbridge. &nbsp; We recently bought two new cars.\u00a0 Well, mostly new. Both were Demo\u2019s (cars used typically by staff at the car lot, typically with 3000 to 8000km on it \u2013 more about that below). I won\u2019t comment too much on what we bought (a Mini Cooper Countryman and a Ford Flex &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/regroove.ca\/archive\/2013\/07\/03\/what-i-learned-about-buying-our-new-cars\/\"><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":14,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[45,46,51],"tags":[68],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>What I learned about buying our new cars - Archive<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/regroove.ca\/archive\/2013\/07\/03\/what-i-learned-about-buying-our-new-cars\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"What I learned about buying our new cars - Archive\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Written by Sean Wallbridge. &nbsp; We recently bought two new cars.\u00a0 Well, mostly new. 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